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FzzybzzyB: Why would anyone trade In Jesus for Muhamed

 

RKC: Who traded Jesus(p)? We believe in all prophets.

 

Surah 3

84. Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)."

 

 

FzzybzzyB: Jesus saved souls of sinners, he judged no man. He stopped men from stoning others…

 

RKC: If you refering to John 7:53 - 8:11, my Bible’s footnotes say:

 

“This episode is not found in the most authoratative manuscripts.”

The New Oxford Annotated Bible, 3rd Ed., Page 162 New Testament

 

 

FzzybzzyB: and taught them to focus on their own selves and their errors not others.

 

RKC: That’s something every prophet has done. Including Muhammad(p).

 

Surah 4

112. But if any one earns a fault or a sin and throws it on to one that is innocent, He carries (on himself) (Both) a falsehood and a flagrant sin.

 

 

FzzybzzyB: Why would anyone trade Christ in for a murderer

 

RKC: Muhammad(p) never murdered anyone. He killed in battle and oversaw capital punishment. There’s a difference. If you have a problem with prophets killing, you must not believe in the below prophets.

 

Numbers 31

1 The LORD said to Moses,

2 "Avenge the people of Israel on the Mid'ianites; afterward you shall be gathered to your people."

3 And Moses said to the people, "Arm men from among you for the war, that they may go against Mid'ian, to execute the LORD's vengeance on Mid'ian.

4 You shall send a thousand from each of the tribes of Israel to the war."

5 So there were provided, out of the thousands of Israel, a thousand from each tribe, twelve thousand armed for war.

6 And Moses sent them to the war, a thousand from each tribe, together with Phin'ehas the son of Elea'zar the priest, with the vessels of the sanctuary and the trumpets for the alarm in his hand.

7 They warred against Mid'ian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and slew every male.

8 They slew the kings of Mid'ian with the rest of their slain, Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba, the five kings of Mid'ian; and they also slew Balaam the son of Be'or with the sword.

9 And the people of Israel took captive the women of Mid'ian and their little ones; and they took as booty all their cattle, their flocks, and all their goods.

10 All their cities in the places where they dwelt, and all their encampments, they burned with fire,

11 and took all the spoil and all the booty, both of man and of beast.

12 Then they brought the captives and the booty and the spoil to Moses, and to Elea'zar the priest, and to the congregation of the people of Israel, at the camp on the plains of Moab by the Jordan at Jericho.

13 Moses, and Elea'zar the priest, and all the leaders of the congregation, went forth to meet them outside the camp.

14 And Moses was angry with the officers of the army, the commanders of thousands and the commanders of hundreds, who had come from service in the war.

15 Moses said to them, "Have you let all the women live?

16 Behold, these caused the people of Israel, by the counsel of Balaam, to act treacherously against the LORD in the matter of Pe'or, and so the plague came among the congregation of the LORD.

17 Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him.

18 But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

 

Joshua 8

18 Then the LORD said to Joshua, "Stretch out the javelin that is in your hand toward Ai; for I will give it into your hand." And Joshua stretched out the javelin that was in his hand toward the city.

19 And the ambush rose quickly out of their place, and as soon as he had stretched out his hand, they ran and entered the city and took it; and they made haste to set the city on fire.

20 So when the men of Ai looked back, behold, the smoke of the city went up to heaven; and they had no power to flee this way or that, for the people that fled to the wilderness turned back upon the pursuers.

21 And when Joshua and all Israel saw that the ambush had taken the city, and that the smoke of the city went up, then they turned back and smote the men of Ai.

22 And the others came forth from the city against them; so they were in the midst of Israel, some on this side, and some on that side; and Israel smote them, until there was left none that survived or escaped.

23 But the king of Ai they took alive, and brought him to Joshua.

24 When Israel had finished slaughtering all the inhabitants of Ai in the open wilderness where they pursued them and all of them to the very last had fallen by the edge of the sword, all Israel returned to Ai, and smote it with the edge of the sword.

25 And all who fell that day, both men and women, were twelve thousand, all the people of Ai.

26 For Joshua did not draw back his hand, with which he stretched out the javelin, until he had utterly destroyed all the inhabitants of Ai.

27 Only the cattle and the spoil of that city Israel took as their booty, according to the word of the LORD which he commanded Joshua.

 

1 Samuel 27

8 Now David and his men went up, and made raids upon the Gesh'urites, the Gir'zites, and the Amal'ekites; for these were the inhabitants of the land from of old, as far as Shur, to the land of Egypt.

9 And David smote the land, and left neither man nor woman alive, but took away the sheep, the oxen, the asses, the camels, and the garments, and came back to A'chish.

10 When A'chish asked, "Against whom have you made a raid today?" David would say, "Against the Negeb of Judah," or "Against the Negeb of the Jerah'meelites," or, "Against the Negeb of the Ken'ites."

11 And David saved neither man nor woman alive, to bring tidings to Gath, thinking, "Lest they should tell about us, and say, 'So David has done.'" Such was his custom all the while he dwelt in the country of the Philistines.

 

 

FzzybzzyB: who had no problem taking the life of another man?

 

RKC: Evidence?

 

 

FzzybzzyB: Maybe its the same wrong Path that made the Jews choose a murderer over Jesus.

 

RKC: Yet, you believe The Father had to rely on a group of people to murder Jesus(p) so all of mankind can have salvation.


FzzybzzyB: someone explain to me how Muhamed was a righteous servant

 

RKC: The Manners and Morals of Muhammad

 

 

 

FzzybzzyB: when he not only judged men to death…

 

RKC: So, I guess you don’t believe in the 10 Commandments or the Torah since they were delivered to a man who “judged men to death”.

 

Numbers 15

32 While the people of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the sabbath day.

33 And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation.

34 They put him in custody, because it had not been made plain what should be done to him.

35 And the LORD said to Moses, "The man shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp."

36 And all the congregation brought him outside the camp, and stoned him to death with stones, as the LORD commanded Moses.

 

 

 

FzzybzzyB: but did nothing more then boost his on ego.

 

RKC: Muhammad(p) taught just the opposite.

 

Surah 31

18. "And swell not thy cheek (for pride) at men, nor walk in insolence through the earth; for Allah loveth not any arrogant boaster.