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Verdi: P.S. Muslims believe that the Quran is
the eternal,
RKC: Can you show me what your source is for the Qur’an being eternal. I’ve only read how the The Father (S. 112:2), our record (S. 17:58), Heaven (S. 25:15), Hell (S. 41:28), and our life in heaven (S. 50:34) are eternal. After the Day of Judgement, I see no reason for the Qur’an.
Verdi: literal,
RKC: True. We believe it is The Father’s exact words.
82. Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)?
Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein Much
discrepancy.
Verdi: unalterable
9. We have, without doubt, sent down the Message;
and We will assuredly guard it (from
corruption).
Verdi: and final word of their Allah.
RKC: True. We believe Muhammad(p) is the last prophet. Hence, the Qur’an is the last revelation.
Prophet
Muhammad's (saws) Last Sermon
“O
People, no prophet or
apostle will come after me, and no new faith will be born. Reason well,
therefore, O People, and understand my words which I convey to you. I leave
behind me two things, the Qur'an and my Sunnah
and if you follow these you will never go astray.”
Verdi: It defines Muslims in Surah III, 110 as "the best of nations".
RKC: This ayat defines those who do what is right, forbid what is wrong, and believe only in The Father as “the best of peoples”.
Surah 3
110. Ye are the best of
peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is
wrong, and believing in
Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith,
it were best for them: among them are some who have
faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors.
Verdi: Surah VIII, 55 defines "kufr"
(infidels including Christians) as "the vilest of animals".
Verdi: Even as "people of the Book"
Christians were and are relegated to an inferior and humiliating status as a
despised caste in Muslim societies, obligated to assent to the alleged
superiority of Muslims, to acknowledge their own inferiority,
Islamic
Dealing With People of the Book
Verdi: and to pay the
humiliation tax known as the "jisya". See Surah IX, 29
RKC: Please see below.
29.
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been
forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of
Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay
the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
Footnotes
for Verse 29
1281.
Jizyah: the root meaning is compensation. The derived meaning, which became the
technical meaning, was a poll tax levied from those who did not accept Islam, but were willing to live under
the protection
of Islam,
and were thus tacitly willing to submit to its ideals being enforced in
the
1282.
An Yadin (literally, from the hand) has been variously interpreted. The hand being
the symbol of power and authority, I accept
the interpretation "in token of willing submission." The Jizyah was thus partly symbolic and
partly a commutation for military service, but as the amount was insignificant and the
exemptions numerous,
its symbolic character predominated. See the last note.
Verdi: Islam does not recognize human or civil
rights,
Verdi: only religious rights as set forth in its
foundation documents which place Muslims in a dominant position in society and
all others below that.
Verdi: All others enjoy whatever may be accorded
them by way of privilege and at the sufferance of the Muslims and their
leaders. This arrangement is
sanctioned by religion, law and custom.
Verdi: The Christian populations of the
RKC: Forced conversions are forbidden in Islam.
256. Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear
from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most
trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah
heareth and knoweth all things.
1. Say : O ye that reject
Faith!
2. I worship not that which ye worship,
3. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
4. And I will not worship
that which ye have been wont to worship,
5. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
6. To you be your Way, and to me mine.
Verdi: persecutions,
RKC: Persecution and oppression are forbidden in Islam.
190. Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight
you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.
191. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn
them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter;
but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there;
but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress
faith.
192. But if they cease,
Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
193. And fight them on
until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and
faith in Allah. but if they cease, Let there be no
hostility except to those who practise oppression.
Verdi: and emigration.
RKC: There are a lot of reasons for emigration.
Verdi: In recent decades the Christian communities in
RKC: The “militant Islam” you speak of is not based on the Islam which Muhammad(p) preached.
Verdi: Europe, North America and
RKC: Discrimination and persecution exist in every religion. I’ve showed you above how persecution is forbidden in Islam. Can you show me where it is forbidden in Christianity?
Verdi: In the
RKC: The sad part is a large number of the 74% you claim are Christian are probably discriminated just the same by American Christians because of the way they look.
Verdi: If current trends continue, the remnants of the
ancient
RKC: What was the problem? Muhammad(p)
lived with people of different religions in