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Ann: I
would like to ask one more question about Islam. I am sure that many of you
have been the subject of harassment, and I do apologize for that. People are
idiots when they are so overcome with emotion that they don't think logically.
RKC: Thank you, but you
don’t have to apologize for others actions.
Ann:
Instead of becoming angry, and acting on primitive emotions, I would rather ask
"why," so that I may be able to understand. Understanding is the
anecdote to anger, and hatred.
RKC: I wish more people
had your mindset. I truly believe you’re here in the correct spirit.
Ann: As
you may have noticed, many Americans have a very negative opinion of Islam.
Many people believe that all Muslims despise Americans, our culture, and our
corrupt values.
RKC: Those are
generalizations. As an American, I don’t despise my country. I am not pleased
with some things, but it’s a fantasy to be pleased with everything. As for
culture and corrupt values, you’d have to more specific. If you look hard
enough, you’ll find someone who has a problem with anything.
Ann:
Many people believe that 9/11 represents the hatred that Muslims all over the
world harbor for Americans.
RKC: I think it represents
some Muslims hatred, but not the majority.
Ann:
Many of us have been led to believe that the Koran encourages Muslims to kill
all of us "infidels."
RKC: The Qur’an does
encourage killing under some circumstances such as oppression and aggression.
One of the sections which is used by anti-Islamic is Surah 9:1-29. Often they
will do something like quote the command to fight, but not quote the
surrounding verses which tell you the conditions for the action. You may want
to look at Message #614 for this Surah and footnotes.
Ann:
Many of us also believe that Muslim men HATE all women, especially Western
women.
RKC: Big myth…I’ve found
that the Qur’an to more equitable than any other scripture.
Surah 030.021
And among His Signs is this, that He created for you
mates from among yourselves, that ye may dwell in tranquillity with them, and
He has put love and mercy between your (hearts): verily in that are Signs for
those who reflect.
Surah 009.071
The Believers, men and women, are protectors one of
another: they enjoin what is just, and forbid what is evil: they observe
regular prayers, practise regular charity, and obey Allah and His Messenger. On
them will Allah pour His mercy: for Allah is Exalted in power, Wise.
Surah 004.032
And in no wise covet those things in
which Allah Hath bestowed His gifts More freely on some of you than on others:
To men is allotted what they earn, and to women what they earn: But ask Allah
of His bounty. For Allah hath full knowledge of all things.
Surah 003.195
And their Lord hath accepted of them, and answered
them: "Never will I suffer to be lost the work of any of you, be he male
or female: Ye are members, one of another: Those who have left their homes, or
been driven out therefrom, or suffered harm in My Cause, or fought or been
slain,- verily, I will blot out from them their iniquities, and admit them into
Gardens with rivers flowing beneath;- A reward from the presence of Allah, and
from His presence is the best of rewards."
Surah 004.124
If any do deeds of righteousness,- be they male or
female - and have faith, they will enter Heaven, and not the least injustice
will be done to them.
Surah 016.097
Whoever works righteousness, man or woman, and has
Faith, verily, to him will We give a new Life, a life that is good and pure and
We will bestow on such their reward according to the best of their actions.
Surah 040.040
"He that works evil will not be requited but by
the like thereof: and he that works a righteous deed - whether man or woman -
and is a Believer- such will enter the Garden (of Bliss): Therein will they
have abundance without measure.
Ann:
But on the other hand there are people who say that Islam is a religion of
peace, and that the highjackers do not represent Islam. I would like to know
what the truth is.
RKC: The highjackers don’t
represent Islam. Below are is a link which you may find interesting.
http://www.thetruereligion.org/terror.htm
Ann:
You see, recently I began learning about Queen Rania, and I started to question
the accuracy of my own beliefs about Islam. She is certainly NOT the horrible
evil monster that Americans imagine ALL Muslims to be. She is kind, beautiful,
warm, compassionate, and full of love for her family, and all of humanity.
RKC: I don’t know very
much about her, but I’ve heard she does a lot for the less fortunate and is
very good mother. J
Ann:
She says that many of the horror stories that we Americans hear about (torture,
amputations, stoning, executions, etc.) that go on in the Arab-world have more
to do with culture, than with religion. Is that true? Would you consider her to
be an accurate representation of what Islam is all about?
RKC: Depends on your
definition of horror. I don’t believe Islam supports any sort of torture.
On Amputations:
Amputations don’t apply to
petty thefts in my opinion. From the above verses, I think this form of
punishment is reserved for someone who has caused great loss, never admits
he/she is wrong, ask forgiveness, and has intentions to continue.
Surah 005.038
As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her
hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah
is Exalted in power.
Surah 005.039
But if the thief repents after his crime, and amends
his conduct, Allah turneth to him in forgiveness; for Allah is Oft-forgiving,
Most Merciful.
On Stonings:
The crime that comes to
mind is adultery. This is due to a Hadith (sayings of Muhammad). While they
contain many things not addressed in the Qur’an and explanations, they are not
to be believed if they are in contradiction to the Qur’an.
Surah
024.002
The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,-
flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their
case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day:
and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.
On Executions:
The same heinous crimes
(murders, treason, etc.) are punishable with death, but killing a man in
Ann:
Were the highjackers just a bunch of crazies, or do they represent the Islamic
feelings toward Western culture? I would like to hear what any of you have to
say about any of this.
RKC: I don’t know if they
were crazy or not, but I don’t believe they were adhering to the Qur’an. I
don’t see how their behavior could fit into the below verses.
Surah 002.190-193
190. Fight in the cause of Allah
those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not
transgressors.
191. And slay them wherever ye catch
them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and
oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque,
unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is
the reward of those who suppress faith.
192. But if they cease, Allah is
Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
193.And fight them on until there is
no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah. but
if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise
oppression.
Surah 004.075-076
75. And why should ye not fight in
the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and
oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us
from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who
will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help!"
76. Those who believe fight in the
cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight
ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan.
Surah 008.060-061
60. Against them make ready your
strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror
into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others
besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall
spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be
treated unjustly.
61. But if the enemy incline towards
peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah. for He is One
that heareth and knoweth (all things)
Surah 009.012-014
12. But if they violate their oaths
after their covenant, and taunt you for your Faith,- fight ye the chiefs of
Unfaith: for their oaths are nothing to them: that thus they may be restrained.
13. Will ye not fight people who
violated their oaths, plotted to expel the Messenger, and took the aggressive
by being the first (to assault) you? Do ye fear them? Nay, it is Allah Whom ye
should more justly fear, if ye believe!
14. Fight them, and Allah will
punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over
them, heal the breasts of Believers,
Surah 022.039-40
39. To those against whom war is
made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged;- and verily,
Allah is most powerful for their aid;-
40. (They are) those who have been
expelled from their homes in defiance of right,- (for no cause) except that
they say, "our Lord is Allah.. Did not Allah check one set of people by means
of another, there would surely have been pulled down monasteries, churches,
synagogues, and mosques, in which the name of Allah is commemorated in abundant
measure. Allah will certainly aid those who aid his (cause);- for verily Allah
is full of Strength, Exalted in Might, (able to enforce His Will).
Surah 042.039-43
39. And those who, when an
oppressive wrong is inflicted on them, (are not cowed but) help and defend
themselves.
40. The recompense for an injury is
an injury equal thereto (in degree): but if a person forgives and makes
reconciliation, his reward is due from Allah. for ((Allah)) loveth not those
who do wrong.
41. But indeed if any do help and
defend themselves after a wrong (done) to them, against such there is no cause
of blame.
42. The blame is only against those
who oppress men and wrong-doing and insolently transgress beyond bounds through
the land, defying right and justice: for such there will be a penalty grievous.
43. But indeed if any show patience
and forgive, that would truly be an exercise of courageous will and resolution
in the conduct of affairs
RKC: Ann, I was once in a
position where I wanted to have a greater understanding of Islam. There are
many books you can read and this Yahoo! Group is an option, but nothing is
better than reading the Holy Qur’an for yourself. The Qur’an is in Arabic, so
any translation is the “meaning” of the Qur’an. In my opinion, the best is by
Abdullah Yusuf Ali. He has excellent footnotes and it can be purchased on
amazon.com. If you want a biography, you may want to check out “Muhammad –
Based on the earliest sources” by Martin Lings. If you need anything, you can
post to this group or email me directly.