jamessm956: Nice try Ali. A for effort, A for clarification, F for effectively refuting what I had posted on the matter. You get an A for further confirming muslims should be following Jesus like the YHWDY(Jews) who followed YHWHSHUA called Jesus Christ…Its even more clear from you explanation how muslims can't escape following Jesus Christ if they are to be made superior to thsoe who reject Faith.  I also agree a lot of the present claimers of christianity are not follwoing Jesus Christ, but that does not excuse the muslim from their OBLIGATION to follow Jesus Christ, based on this verse in the quran. THERE'S NO ESCAPE from the reality muslims must follow Jesus Christ, NONE. Neither is there any EXCUSE for them not to be following Jesus Christ.

 

RKC: The Qur’an commands Muslims to follow Muhammad(p) and believe in every prophet because they all brought the same basic message.

 

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The Believers, men and women, are protectors one of another: they enjoin what is just, and forbid what is evil: they observe regular prayers, practise regular charity, and obey Allah and His Messenger. On them will Allah pour His mercy: for Allah is Exalted in power, Wise.

 

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So obey Allah, and obey His Messenger: but if ye turn back, the duty of Our Messenger is but to proclaim (the Message) clearly and openly.

 

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Say: "Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger: but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to preach the clear (Message).

 

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That He may make your conduct whole and sound and forgive you your sins: He that obeys Allah and His Messenger, has already attained the highest achievement.

 

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O Prophet! When believing women come to thee to take the oath of fealty to thee, that they will not associate in worship any other thing whatever with Allah, that they will not steal, that they will not commit adultery (or fornication), that they will not kill their children, that they will not utter slander, intentionally forging falsehood, and that they will not disobey thee in any just matter,- then do thou receive their fealty, and pray to Allah for the forgiveness (of their sins): for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

 

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Say: "Obey Allah and His Messenger": But if they turn back, Allah loveth not those who reject Faith.

 

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O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if ye do believe in Allah and the Last Day: That is best, and most suitable for final determination.

 

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Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and beware (of evil): if ye do turn back, know ye that it is Our Messenger's duty to proclaim (the message) in the clearest manner.

 

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O ye who believe! Believe in Allah and His Messenger, and the scripture which He hath sent to His Messenger and the scripture which He sent to those before (him). Any who denieth Allah, His angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Day of Judgment, hath gone far, far astray.

 

 

RKC: You are not interpreting this verse correctly. Below, I will break this verse into pieces and show what is meant thru additional verses in the Qur’an.

 

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Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.

 

 

RKC: 1. “Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme…” – The blaspheme which is being referred to is discussed below.

 

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They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.

 

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They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.

 

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Why turn they not to Allah, and seek His forgiveness? For Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

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Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!

 

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 In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary. Say: "Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every - one that is on the earth? For to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For Allah hath power over all things."

 

 

RKC: 2. “… I will make those who follow thee…” – It’s only natural when discussing someone’s followers to ask, “What is being taught?”. Let’s see what Jesus(p) will say when he is questioned by God and who he taught should be worshipped.

 

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And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.

 

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"Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, 'worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up Thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things.

 

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"'(I have come to you), to attest the Law which was before me. And to make lawful to you part of what was (Before) forbidden to you; I have come to you with a Sign from your Lord. So fear Allah, and obey me.

 

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"'It is Allah Who is my Lord and your Lord; then worship Him. This is a Way that is straight.'"

 

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When Jesus came with Clear Signs, he said: "Now have I come to you with Wisdom, and in order to make clear to you some of the (points) on which ye dispute: therefore fear Allah and obey me.

 

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"For Allah, He is my Lord and your Lord: so worship ye Him: this is a Straight Way."

 

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And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!"

 

 

RKC: 3. “…superior to those…” - Alisaymuh7 has already responded to this…

 

 

RKC: 4. “…who reject faith…” – This is how the Qur’an defines “Faith”…

 

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The Messenger believeth in what hath been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith. Each one (of them) believeth in Allah, His angels, His books, and His messengers. "We make no distinction (they say) between one and another of His messengers." And they say: "We hear, and we obey: (We seek) Thy forgiveness, our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys."

 

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It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces Towards east or West; but it is righteousness- to believe in Allah and the Last Day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; to spend of your substance, out of love for Him, for your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves; to be steadfast in prayer, and practice regular charity; to fulfil the contracts which ye have made; and to be firm and patient, in pain (or suffering) and adversity, and throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of truth, the Allah-fearing.

 

 

RKC: Do the Gospels paint Jesus(p) as being God? Let’s see….

 

1. Jesus(p) separates himself from God.

 

Mark 10

¹⁷ And as he was setting out on his journey, a man ran up and knelt before him, and asked him, "Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?" ¹⁸ And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.

 

John 17

³ And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.

 

John 14

¹ "Let not your hearts be troubled; believe in God, believe also in me.

 

 

2. Jesus(p) has a God.

 

John 20

¹⁷ Jesus said to her, "Do not hold me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God."

 

Matthew 26

³⁶ Then Jesus went with them to a place called Gethsem'ane, and he said to his disciples, "Sit here, while I go yonder and pray."

 

 

3. Jesus(p) taught the Father should be worshipped.

 

Mark 12

²⁸ And one of the scribes came up and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, asked him, "Which commandment is the first of all?"

²⁹ Jesus answered, "The first is, 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one;

³⁰ and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.'

³¹ The second is this, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these."

³² And the scribe said to him, "You are right, Teacher; you have truly said that he is one, and there is no other but he;

³³ and to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the strength, and to love one's neighbor as oneself, is much more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices."

³⁴ And when Jesus saw that he answered wisely, he said to him, "You are not far from the kingdom of God." And after that no one dared to ask him any question.

 

John 4

²³ But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for such the Father seeks to worship him.

²⁴ God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."

 

 

4. Jesus(p) gives all authority to the Father, demonstrates a separate will, and needs to be taught.

 

John 5

³⁰ "I can do nothing on my own authority; as I hear, I judge; and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me.

 

John 8

²⁸ So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of man, then you will know that I am he, and that I do nothing on my own authority but speak thus as the Father taught me.