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This sounds like missionary fabrication.
An Imam is someone who is very learned and would never have responded this way.
I would have responded differently and an Imam probably knows 10 times what I
do and most likely has memorized a great deal (if not all of it) of the Qur'an.
I find it very hard to believe an Imam would answer, "Yes" to the
question, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of
Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can
go to heaven. Is that correct?" Below is why.......
A. This email gives one the impression
Allah is a different God than "The Father". Allah is an Arabic word
for God. If one were to read an Arabic Bible, they would see the same
"Allah" in Genesis 1, etc.
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/Allah/BibAllah.html
B. According to the Qur'an, Muslims are
not to force anyone to convert to Islam....
Surah 2
256. Let there be
no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever
rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold,
that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.
C. If a person does not want to accept
Islam, they are free to practice whatever they choose....
Surah 109
1. Say : O ye that reject Faith!
2. I worship not that which ye worship,
3. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
4. And I will not worship that which ye have been
wont to worship,
5. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
6. To you be your
Way, and to me mine.
In addition, the Qur'an doesn't forbid
you to take anyone for a friend unless they meet the below conditions.
Surah 60
7. It may be that Allah will grant love (and friendship)
between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies. For Allah has power (over
all things); And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. 8. Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you
not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and
justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.
9. Allah only forbids you, with regard to those
who fight you for (your) Faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support
(others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and
protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that
do wrong.
D. Jihad is an Arabic word which means
"to struggle". Although a Jihad can be a "Holy War",
Muhammad taught that the greatest Jihad is the inner Jihad. The struggle within
yourselves to keep ourselves from doing sinful acts or following the commandments. I am waging Jihad right now with this email. The last
legitimate Jihad/Holy War was when the
Surah 25
52. Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost
strenuousness, with the (Qur'an).
E. The Qur'an is very clear about the
conditions for fighting infidels, non-Believers, Unbelievers, or Kaafirs. Below
are a sample. Only someone who is oppressive would have a problem with the
commandments to fight. If you die fighting in a cause to end oppression,
persecution, etc. (God's cause), you go to heaven because you sacrificed
the most valuable thing you have......your life.
Surah 22
39. To those
against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are
wronged;- and verily, Allah is most powerful for their aid;-
40. (They are) those who have been expelled from
their homes in defiance of right,- (for no cause) except that they say,
"our Lord is Allah". Did not Allah check one set of people by means
of another, there would surely have been pulled down monasteries, churches,
synagogues, and mosques, in which the name of Allah is commemorated in abundant
measure. Allah will certainly aid those who aid his (cause);- for verily Allah
is full of Strength, Exalted in Might, (able to enforce His Will).
Surah 2
190. Fight in
the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits;
for Allah loveth not transgressors.
191. And slay them wherever ye
catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter;
but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there;
but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress
faith.
192. But if they cease, Allah is
Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
193. And
fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there
prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.
Surah 4
74. Let those fight in the
cause of Allah Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who
fighteth in the cause of Allah,- whether he is slain or gets victory - Soon
shall We give him a reward of great (value).
75. And why
should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are
ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our
Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us
from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will
help!"
76. Those who believe fight
in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil:
So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of
Satan.
Surah
9
12.
But if they violate their oaths after their covenant, and taunt you for your
Faith,- fight ye the chiefs of Unfaith: for their oaths are nothing to them:
that thus they may be restrained.
13.
Will ye not fight people who violated their
oaths, plotted to expel the Messenger, and took the aggressive by being the
first (to assault) you? Do ye fear them? Nay, it is Allah Whom ye should
more justly fear, if ye believe!
14.
Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame,
help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers,
15.
And still the indignation of their hearts. For Allah will turn (in mercy) to
whom He will; and Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.
Surah
42
39. And
those who, when an oppressive wrong is
inflicted on them, (are not cowed but) help and defend themselves.
40.
The recompense for an injury is an injury equal thereto (in degree): but if a
person forgives and makes reconciliation, his reward is due from Allah: for
(Allah) loveth not those who do wrong.
41.
But indeed if any do help and defend themselves after a wrong (done) to them,
against such there is no cause of blame.
42. The blame is only against those who oppress men and
wrong-doing and insolently transgress beyond bounds through the land, defying
right and justice: for such there will be a penalty grievous.
43. But indeed if any show
patience and forgive, that would truly be an exercise of courageous will and
resolution in the conduct of affairs.
I would seriously consider the honesty of Rick Mathes. Although he
could argue this is what this Imam told him, I just find it hard to believe.
Oh, here's the passage I was talking about at breakfast on Saturday. Mr. Ricks
and Mr. Demagnus may be interested to see it as they discuss "ego". I
always found this passage interesting as you could argue the first sin was
actually racism.
Surah 15
26. We created man from sounding clay, from mud
moulded into shape;
27. And the Jinn race, We had
created before, from the fire of a scorching wind.
28. Behold! thy Lord said to the
angels: "I am about to create man, from sounding clay from mud moulded
into shape;
29. "When I have fashioned
him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of My spirit, fall ye down in
obeisance unto him."
30. So the angels prostrated
themselves, all of them together:
31. Not so Iblis: he refused to be
among those who prostrated themselves.
32. (Allah) said: "O Iblis!
what is your reason for not being among those who prostrated themselves?"
33. (Iblis)
said: "I am not one to prostrate myself to man, whom Thou didst create
from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape."
34. (Allah) said: "Then get
thee out from here; for thou art rejected, accursed.
35. "And the curse shall be
on thee till the day of Judgment."
36. (Iblis) said: "O my Lord!
give me then respite till the Day the (dead) are raised."
37. (Allah) said: "Respite is
granted thee
38. "Till the Day of the Time
appointed."
39. (Iblis) said: "O my Lord!
because Thou hast put me in the wrong, I will make (wrong) fair-seeming to them
on the earth, and I will put them all in the wrong,-
40. "Except Thy servants
among them, sincere and purified (by Thy Grace)."
41. (Allah) said: "This (way
of My sincere servants) is indeed a way that leads straight to
42. "For over My servants no
authority shalt thou have, except such as put themselves in the wrong and
follow thee."
43. And verily, Hell is the
promised abode for them all!
44. To it are seven gates: for
each of those gates is a (special) class (of sinners) assigned.
45. The righteous (will be) amid
gardens and fountains (of clear-flowing water).
46. (Their greeting will be):
"Enter ye here in peace and security."
47. And We shall remove from their
hearts any lurking sense of injury: (they will be) brothers (joyfully) facing
each other on thrones (of dignity).
48. There no sense of fatigue
shall touch them, nor shall they (ever) be asked to leave.
49. Tell My servants that I am
indeed the Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful;
50. And that My Penalty will be
indeed the most grievous Penalty
Talk to ya later.
Love,
RKC
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Subject: FW: Subject: Allah vs Jesus,Budah,God, etc.?
Incredible
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To:
Subject: Subject: Allah vs Jesus,Budah,God, etc.?
This from Jim Bonde, who meets
regularly with prisoners in the Illinois State
Pen.
Allah or Jesus?
By Rick Mathes, Executive Director of Mission Gate Ministry
Last month I attended my annual training session that's required
for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training
session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the
Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths who explained their belief
systems. I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say.
The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam
complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for
questions and answers. When it was my turn I directed my question to the
Imam and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that
most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against
the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a
command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the
case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?"
There was no disagreement with my statements and without
hesitation he replied, "Non-believers!"
I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All
followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of
your faith so they can go to heaven. Is that correct?"
The expression on his face changed from one of authority and
command to that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand
in the cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes."
I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to
imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your
faith or Pat Robertson or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in
order to go to heaven!"
The Imam was speechless.
I continued, "I also have problem with being your friend when
you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let
me ask you a question.would you rather have your Allah who tells you to
kill me in order to go to heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I
am going to heaven and wants you to be with me?"
You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.
Chuck Colson once told me something that has sustained me
these 20 years of prison ministry. He said to me, "Rick, remember that the
truth will prevail."
And it will!
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Rick Mathes and his wife Trish are the founders of Mission Gate Prison
Ministries, an outreach to those who are incarcerated and their families
in
20th they will be hosting their 18th Annual SeptemberFest Fund Raising Dinner
at the Double Tree Hotel in
Papania as their featured speaker.
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May God bless you this day.